Arnold Kling on How the Parties Really Differ

As we head into election season with rhetorical and hyperbolic guns ablazing, I find this short piece by Arnold Kling to be somewhat correct and refreshing.

Kling asserts that, for the most part, the difference is more rhetorical than anything else.

Says Kling:

So what is the "key difference" between the parties? Rhetoric. When Republicans advocate a small contraction of the welfare state, Democrats claim that Republicans totally oppose the welfare state. And many Republicans oblige them by standing up for "liberty" and "responsibility." Similarly, when Democrats advocate a small expansion in the welfare state, Republican claim that Democrats oppose free markets. And many Democrats oblige them by saying things like "markets only benefit the rich."

This rhetorical illusion is so powerful that when a Democrat like Clinton adopts many pro-market reforms, Republicans still hate him as a 60s radical. And when Bush II sharply expands the welfare state, Democrats still hate him as a billionaire's lackey.

Oh my God, is that ever true!

The rhetorical difference can be seen in blogs even more so than on the campaign trail and the halls of Congress. Partisans LOVE engaging in these illusions by playing into the stereotypes of being anti-market-soak-the-rich/socialist-wannabe/spineless defeatists (Left) and corportate-enabling/ruthlessly uncaring and selfish/imperialists (Right). In reality, most are neither. I stress "most".

But like Kling says, Dems/Reps, liberals/conservatives play into these stereotypes by trying to outdo the other on rhetoric. When conservatives want tax cuts, liberals tend to overdo the criticism and come across like tax-loving, "more, more, MORE" tax/spenders. The dichotomy of the rhetoric is then greatly more extreme than the reality of policies at stake or perhaps even the true intent. In most cases, we're talking about a few percentage-points of difference in tax rates.

Kling says that if they really wanted the rhetoric to match policies, they would be much more bold in what they push for:

The second big misconception is that the parties' rhetoric makes sense on it's own terms. It doesn't. If Dems really cared about poor human beings, they would quit worrying about the American old, most of whom aren't poor. In fact, they would quit worrying about the American "poor," because by world standards, they're doing fine . Instead, Dems would concentrate all their efforts on helping absolutely poor foreigners, presumably through a mixture of permitting massive immigration, and redirecting welfare to the world's bottom billions.

Similarly, if Reps really cared about "over-burdened" tax-payers, they would try to diminish the burden in the only sustainable way: Big cuts in spending. They would be crusading against the popular programs like Social Security and Medicare that absorb most of our tax dollars. While they're at it, they might want to do a little cost/benefit analysis of the War on Terror .

Indeed. The truly poor who truly need help are not really the primary target of Democratic policies. The targets tend to mainly be, IMO, the borderline poor who could use a helping hand on the margins. Beyond that, I feel they tend to do more harm to marginally comfortable or self-sufficient. Americans who, IMO, pay a lot in taxes compared to the benefit it really gives and those benefits are either exaggerated or made to seem more broadly targeted than they really are.

While helping struggling Americans, I truly wish Dems would consider more carefully how the damage/impact of the billions spent on the poor is not simply a dollar amount. Marginally-making-it Americans who don't get much in the way of subsidies get (rightfully) resentful when they see co-workers and peers working less because they can supplement their income with welfare subsidies. It's also not good that marginal workers work to the qualification thresholds. It's bad for character and bad for the morale of the working poor who make it on their own. Clinton showed just how much we could cut from this when he did welfare reform in his second term and the rolls dropped dramatically and life went on just fine. Again, keep in mind the rhetorical angle. You can be stingy on welfare programs and still be concerned for the poor with helpful programs. You really can. There's no need to be un-critical of it in daily talk simply because the conservatives are more openly critical. It's bad for the accuracy of national dialog.

As for the conservatives, this message works in its own way for them. And yes, Kling is right: if conservatives really cared about tax burdens, they'd be pushing for massive spending cuts all the way around....starting with military and war-related spending. What a damn shameful waste of blood and treasure. And then move on to the biggest ones: SS and Medicare.

Foreign policy is the same. When you put aside the compounded rhetorical escalation of war-mongering perpetual imperialism and spineless acquiescence...as if that's really where the policy differences are at...you see that the real difference isn't that incredibly wide.

Could it really be that the unmeasured rhetoric is simply to keep the faithful thinking that stand for moderation in the face of extremism? Perhaps.

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This reminded me of Pat Buchanon's CPAC talk...

...years ago.

In it he mentioned this fellow Carroll Quigley;


The argument that the two parties should represent opposed
ideals and politics...of the Right and...the Left, is a foolish idea...the
two parties should be almost identical, so that the American people can
‘throw the rascals out’ without leading to any profound or extensive
shifts in policy...” “It should be possible,” wrote Quigley, “to replace
one party with the other party which will pursue, with new vigor,
approximately the same basic policies.”


Quigley’s dream is America’s nightmare. Our two Beltway parties have
become two wings of the same bird of prey, two arms of one national
establishment that means to rule in perpetuity. Our two-party system is a
fraud, a sham, a delusion. On foreign policy, trade, immigration, Big
Government, we have one-party government, one party press; and
conservatives are being played for suckers.

I agree, we as conservatives have lost our way, we have capitulated and acquiesced ourselves into a deep malaise.

However, conservatives are energized now with the introduction of Sarah Palin because there is renewed hope for a conservative resurgence, that we can once again cut spending, abolish unnecessary bureaucracy, lower taxes, create smaller government, affect the transfer of power from the executive and judiciary back to the people and their representatives, and have less government intervention in our lives! 

 

Back in the thirties we were told we must collectivize the nation because the people were so poor. Now we are told we must collectivize the nation because the people are so rich.” ~ William F. Buckley, Jr.


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I don't disagree, but

this is a little bit of a rhetorical sleight-of-hand:

If Dems really cared about poor human beings, they would quit worrying about the American old, most of whom aren't poor. In fact, they would quit worrying about the American "poor," because by world standards, they're doing fine favicon. Instead, Dems would concentrate all their efforts on helping absolutely poor foreigners, presumably through a mixture of permitting massive immigration, and redirecting welfare to the world's bottom billions.

This requires a clever re-edit of the Democratic platform, which is more concerned with helping poor Americans, with an assumption that they must have a general attitude towards the poor, and therefore should be thinking more about other countries. In fact, it's a borderline fallacy of equivocation.

That being said, I agree with some of the premise, but it also requires a particular type of focus. Rhetoric is not the only difference on some key social issues, which is the primary reason I'm a Democrat (not that I'm overly pleased with some of their social issues, I'll be honest).

Saint, n. A dead sinner revised and edited. - Ambrose Bierce

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But aren't they rhetorical as well?

Rhetoric is not the only difference on some key social issues, which is the primary reason I'm a Democrat

But aren't those issues also primarily rhetorical? As far as the drive to change established norms, both parties talk and do little.

From the Right, we have abortion. Last I checked, it was still legal. From the Left, we have gay marriage. Last I checked, it was still illegal (mostly). There are other examples.

(I would even go so far as to disagree with your statement that the Dems are more concerned with helping poor Americans; both sides are concerned, they just differ in which method they think will be most effective. It's disingenuous to state that a difference in methodology equates to a difference in goals.)

It's very easy to stand up and say "X should be changed" and much harder to actually do something about it. Both parties spin this to their advantage; it gives the politician an issue to talk about, but one he has very little chance of (or, let's be honest, desire for) changing. Baby steps might happen, but real change will not be delivered by either party.

Talk is cheap. Both sides talk a good game and get their supporters to cheering.

"Perplexity is the beginning of knowledge" -- Kahlil Gibran

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Isn't there a difference

between promising that you'll support an issue, and promising you'll deliver on one? The gay marriage issue is a good example: there's a reason it's legal in a bunch of states with strongly Democratic majorities, and illegal in a bunch of states with strongly Republican majorities. Granted, the primary mechanism for some of these was the courts (but not in Vermont, New York, Rhode Island, etc.) Given that issues like this (ditto abortion) require more than just a slim, temporary majority, I don't think either party is being purely rhetorical when it says it will do what it can.

We can suggest they aren't fighting hard enough, but the difference between a Republican or Democratic majority is going to make a difference on whether Employment Non-Discrimination passes Congress, for example. And that does impact a lot of people.

Are parties naturally resistant to change? Sure. Is real change something that requires on-the-ground engagement? Absolutely. But that doesn't mean, in the meantime, that having one or the other party in power doesn't have implications for how certain issues play out.

Saint, n. A dead sinner revised and edited. - Ambrose Bierce

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Some real differences

As far as I am concerned the one biggest issue where the party differences are not purely rhetorical is the environment. And that one's a fairly important one for me (green bar, don't ya know). And I am not just talking about global warming and drilling (McCain and Obama, for example, really aren't much different on that), although the Republican rhetoric on those issues is frankly nauseating. Democrats consistently strengthen environmental protections, and Republicans consistently weaken them. That's not rhetoric.

We are the environment. There is no distinction. What we do to the earth we do to ourselves. —David Suzuki

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I know what you mean SL...

...I surf almost daily, am a member of Surf Rider Foundation, Gaviota Conservation Society, and heal the ocean. I am very sensitive to environmental issues, that being said, we are literally in this energy crisis because of over zealous enviromental protections, anwar is a perfect example.

It,s a postage stamp size piece of wasteland in the middle of nowhere, I'm for letting the market place develop all the alternate forms of energy that becomes feasable, but we can't use what we do and not be somewhat self sustaining via our own contributions?

Back in the thirties we were told we must collectivize the nation because the people were so poor. Now we are told we must collectivize the nation because the people are so rich.” ~ William F. Buckley, Jr.


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I'd have to disagree

Actually we are in this energy crisis because gasoline has very inelastic demand and because supply is running out right quick.

Though, of course, energy efficiency starts at home.

I never broke the law; I am the law! -- George W. Bush Judge Dredd
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Back in the thirties we were told we must collectivize the nation because the people were so poor. Now we are told we must collectivize the nation because the people are so rich.” ~ William F. Buckley, Jr.


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Both

Environmental protections have very little to do with us running out of enough cheap oil to service the economy.

ANWR has barely enough oil to make a dent in prices. Even if we started drilling like mad, it wouldn't be enough to change the global prices by more than a few percent. Such protections contribute to our problem, but not enough to really make a difference. This is very much like the pork in terms of the deficit. Eliminate all pork tomorrow and we're still way over our heads in terms of spending. Pork (like environmental regulations) simply isn't enough of the problem to make a difference in the big picture.

A DKos poster once made the tongue-in-cheek suggestion that if we are to start drilling, all oil that comes from these wells must be for domestic use only. If this is really about helping to overcome dependence on foreign oil, that would only make sense.

I never broke the law; I am the law! -- George W. Bush Judge Dredd
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